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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 94 20:40:36 PST
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #240
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Fri, 4 Mar 94 Volume 94 : Issue 240
Today's Topics:
(none)
Amateur Radio: Elmers List Quick-Search Index
ARLP008 Propagation de KT7H
ARLS011 Anniversary for AMSAT
Callsign server info
Ramsey DF-1 Kit
Status of Online Repeater Directory Project....
Used HF help
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Date: 4 Mar 94 21:42:00 GMT
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Date: 1 Mar 94 12:08:34 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news.byu.edu!news.mtholyoke.edu!news.unomaha.edu!news@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Amateur Radio: Elmers List Quick-Search Index
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Posted-By: auto-faq 3.2.1.2
Archive-name: radio/ham-radio/elmers/index
Quick Search Index by Subject:
(Note: This index is not necessarily all-inclusive and some Elmers are
listed more than once.)
AMATEUR RADIO EMERGENCY SERVICE MAILING LISTS
(ARES)/RADIO AMATEUR CIVIL
EMERGENCY SERVICE (RACES) Botterell (Networks in Emergency
Mangement)
Botterell (Networks in Emergency Engehausen, et al (AA4RE Packet
Management Mailing List) BBS)
Chilton (EMA Radio Officer) Dodell (Land-Mobile Radio,
Engehausen (RACES Bulletins) MARS Members)
Fyodorov (Russia) Freeman, M (ACC Equipment)
Humphries (ex-Asst. EC) Hurder (ARRL Field Organization)
Hurder (ARRL Field Services) Kluft (rec.radio.amateur
Magid Working Group)
Stader (EMAS SEC) Knapp, et al (Iowa State Elmers)
Wilson Prescott (Antique and Older
Tube Equipment)
AMATEUR TELEPRINTER OVER RADIO Meredith (PBBS Bulletin Forwarding,
(AMTOR)/PACKET TELEPRINTER OVER F6FBB Packet BBS)
RADIO (PACTOR)/RADIO TELETYPE (RTTY) Nerenberg (DX)
Schleck, et al (College Clubs)
Battles Walker, et al (QRP)
Doane
Feeney (PACTOR) MILITARY AFFILIATE RADIO SYSTEM
Freeman, J (AMTOR and PACTOR) (MARS)
Graham, P
Richards Doane (Navy)
Sayer (also decoding CHU's Dodell (Air Force, Mailing List)
ASCII time code) Miller (Air Force)
Monson (Army)
AMERICA ON-LINE Sargent (Army)
Taylor (Air Force)
Stader (Host, Welch, J (Navy/Marine Corps)
Ham Radio Club forum) Welch, V (Navy/Marine Corps,
list of MARS members on the
AMERICAN RADIO RELAY LEAGUE Internet, tentative BBS
(ARRL) conference)
Battles (QST Features Editor) MICROWAVE
Bloom (ARRL HQ Postmaster,
QEX Editor) Graham, P (1.2 Ghz repeaters)
Doane (CT SM) Hammill
Elmore (CO TC) Jahnke (SSB/CW SHF Contesting)
Hare (Laboratory Manager) Lau (Transverters up to
Hurder (Field Services Deputy 24 Ghz)
Manager) Sargent (3, 5, and 10 Ghz)
Jahnke (VEC Manager)
Lau (Technical Editor) MOBILE
Redding (Educational Advisor)
Stader (EMAS SEC) Carruth (FM and HT's)
Turner (Volunteer Counsel) Hare (RFI issues)
Wilson (SCV SM) Humphries
Keller (HF)
ANTENNAS Salmon (Maritime)
Sargent
Brewer (wire HF) Salyzyn (HF CW)
Billson (HF)
Brubaker (HF) NATIONAL TRAFFIC SYSTEM (NTS)
DePolo (including VHF/UHF)
Elmore Doane
Freeman, J (wire HF and 160m) Elmore
Graham, J (wire HF for Hurder (ARRL Field Services)
apartments) Salyzyn (Canada)
Halbert (simple designs) Sargent
Humphries (VHF and multi-band Zurn (Europe)
wire arrays)
Myers (and transmission NOVICE/TECH INSTRUCTION
lines)
Ornitz (including computer Billson
modelling) Bono (AutoExam/AutoCW)
Potter Carlson (Macintosh Hamstacks)
Rymell Chilton
Salnick Knapp, et al
Salyzyn Larson
Standerfer Magid
Stine (wire HF) Maia
Stockton Myers (including basic
Taylor electronics and communications
Zurn (wire HF) theory)
Redding
ANTIQUE AND OLDER EQUIPMENT Reeves
Salmon
Brewer (40's-70's) Stader
Keys (including HF and CW)
Prescott (Mailing List) PACKET
Moore, T (VHF)
Standerfer Angus (TCP/IP, NOS, UUPC,
Turner (including Kenwood and Tnet, and SNEWS, IP
Ten-Tec) Coordinator for CA - LA
and SF Valley subnet)
APPLE MACINTOSH COMPUTER Battles (AX.25 and TCP/IP)
Bloom (IP Coordinator for
Braun Connecticut subnet)
Carlson (Macintosh Hamstacks) Braun (TCP/IP, Macintosh, IP
Ehrlich (FTP archive) Coordinator for WNY subnet)
Stader (List of Macintosh Cole (TCP/IP and NOS)
Amateur Radio Software) Dodell (IP Coordinator for
Van Peursem (Savant) Arizona subnet)
Elmore (including TCP/IP)
BATTERIES Engehausen, et al (AA4RE Packet
BBS and Mailing List)
Hammill (Sealed Lead-Acid) Freeman, J (KAM, TCP/IP, NOS for
Meyers DOS and OS/2)
Stuart (including Ni-Cads) Fyodorov (AX.25 and TCP/IP in
Russia)
CALLSIGN PROJECT/NATIONAL TECHNICAL Graham, J (KAMterm)
INFORMATION SERVICE (NTIS) Graham, P (VHF)
Knapp, et al
Carruth Meredith (AZ Packet Coordinator,
Lloyd (including QRZ Ham-Radio PBBS Bulletin Forwarding Mailing
CD-ROM) List, F6FBB Packet BBS Mailing
List)
CIVIL AIR PATROL (CAP) Salyzyn (Canadian)
Sargent
Carlson Sayer (VHF)
Moore, J Schallehn (Kantronics)
Stader (TCP/IP and Macintosh)
COLLEGE CLUBS Vail (TCP/IP, TAPR/9600, IP
Coordinator for East/Central
Edwards Massachusetts subnet)
Knapp, et al Van Peursem (Savant and
Schallehn Macintosh)
Schleck (et al, Mailing List)
MEDIA (PUBLICATION/WRITING/
COMMERCIAL EQUIPMENT BROADCATING)
Dodell (Mailing List) Battles (QST)
Richards Bloom (QEX)
Lau (QST/QEX)
CW (MORSE CODE) Moore (Co-Host, Ham Radio and More)
Bono (AutoCW) PART-15 BROADCASTING
Elmore
Fyodorov (including Cyrillic) Ornitz
Keys
Rosenfeld POWER SUPPLIES
Salyzyn
Squicciarini Myers
Stine Stuart
Stockton
Tescher (Computer Programs) PRODUCT INFO/FEEDBACK
Zurn (including European
abbreviations) Appell (Alinco and Yaesu)
Freeman, M and Shirley (Advanced
DIGITAL SIGNAL PROCESSING (DSP) Computer Controls - ACC)
Bloom QRP (LOW POWER)
Edwards
Billson
EQUIPMENT TESTING/TROUBLESHOOTING Halbert (HF)
Sargent (VHF)
Billson Stockton
Brewer (Tube Gear) Turner (including Ten-Tec
Freeman, J (PC ISA Bus) Argonaut)
Hare (ARRL Laboratory Manager) Walker, et al (Mailing List)
Myers Zurn
Ornitz (Instrumentation)
Rymell (Electronics and Computer RADIO FREQUENCY INTERFERENCE (RFI)
Service Work)
Salnick Elmore
Salyzyn Graham, P (including PC's)
Standerfer Hare (including Automotive)
Stockton Myers
Taylor Stockton
Tescher Witte
Witte (Instrumentation)
RECIPROCAL LICENSING/FOREIGN OPERATION
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS (FAQ's)
Andrews (New Zealand)
Bloom (ARRL E-mail and Info Server) Flaherty (South Pacific)
Cheeseman (Australia) Fyodorov (Russia)
Jahnke (VE Exams Scheduled) Levine (Australia and Japan)
Kluft (General) Salmon
Salyzyn (Radio Amateurs on Usenet, Salyzyn (Canada)
rec.radio.info Moderator) Stockton (UK)
Stader (Macintosh Amateur Radio Zurn (Italy and Germany)
Software)
Watt (Packet and Digital Modes) REPEATERS
Woods (Mail Order Electronics)
Battles
HANDICAPPED OPERATING Chilton
De Armond
Billson DePolo (VHF/UHF)
Doane Graham, P (including 1.2 Ghz)
Hurder Keller (220 Mhz)
Knapp, et al Knapp, et al
Schallehn (VHF/UHF)
HIGH FREQUENCY (HF)/ Witte
CONTESTING/DX
SATELLITES
Battles
Brubaker Bass (including low-cost, QRP
Chilton Microsat stations)
Elmore Feeney
Fyodorov Flaherty (including OSCAR)
Knapp, et al
Nerenberg (DX Mailing List) SEMINARS/LECTURES
Rosenfeld (including practical
QSLing tips) Humphries
Salmon (including DXpeditions) Redding
Salnick Stuart (Batteries and Power
Squicciarini Supplies)
Tidd (DXCC Databases)
Zurn TANDY COLOR COMPUTER AND OS-9
HOMEBREWING/DO-IT-YOURSELF Billson
Billson (6809 uP) TELEVISION, FAST-SCAN (ATV)
Bloom (including DSP)
Carruth (Digital Design, Chilton
Software) Feeney
Chilton Hammill
De Armond
DePolo (including VHF/UHF TELEVISION, SLOW-SCAN (SSTV)
design and construction)
Edwards (including DSP) Langner
Fyodorov (including computers)
Halbert (QRP) UNIX
Keys (Junk Box projects)
Kohnen (Tubes) Carruth (System Administration)
Lau (Transverters, VHF/UHF, Cole (including Linux)
Filters, repeatable projects) Ehrlich
Myers (Transmission Lines, Freeman, J
Analog and Digital Design) Sayer (especially SunOS)
Moore, T (Junk Box projects) Tescher
Rymell (Electronics and Computers, Van Peursem (HP-UX and System
Low-Cost projects) Administration)
Salyzyn
Stine (Tube Amplifiers, VERY HIGH FREQUENCY (VHF)/
Receivers, and Exciters) ULTRA HIGH FREQUENCY (UHF)
Stockton (including QRP)
Stuart (Batteries and Power Battles
Supplies) Carpenter (6 meters)
Taylor (Tubes and Amplifiers) DePolo (Weak Signal, Contesting,
Tescher and Repeaters)
Flaherty (including Amplifiers)
IBM PERSONAL COMPUTER (PC) AND Graham, P (Commercial Rig
CLONES Conversions)
Hammill (including ATV and DX)
Angus Humphries (2m FM)
Bono (AutoExam, et al) Jahnke (CW/SSB Contesting and
Braun Weak Signal)
Cole Lau (CW/SSB to 222 Mhz)
Ehrlich Moore, T
Freeman, J (including OS/2 and Richards (Monitoring)
ISA bus) Sargent (2 and 6 meter AM and
Fyodorov Contesting)
Keller Witte (including Portable
Tescher and Mountaintopping)
INTERNET SERVICES VOLUNTEER EXAMINER (VE) PROGRAM
Schleck Billson
Carlson (W5YI)
MAIL-SERVERS/ARCHIVES DePolo
Jahnke (ARRL VEC Manager)
Bloom (ARRL Info Server) Kohnen (W5YI)
Deignan (Buckmaster CD-ROM) Maia (W5YI VEC)
Ehrlich (Boston ARC FTP archive) Reeves
Harding (Ham Server) Rosenfeld (W5YI)
Shirley (ACC Equipment) Salmon (Sunnyvale)
Sternitzke (W5YI Asst. VEC)
--
73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU
pschleck@unomaha.edu (personal mail)
elmers-request@unomaha.edu (Elmers List administrivia)
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Date: 1 Mar 94 13:55:34 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!marcbg@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLP008 Propagation de KT7H
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP008
ARLP008 Propagation de KT7H
ZCZC AP22
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 8 ARLP008
>From Tad Cook, KT7H
Seattle, WA February 25, 1994
To all radio amateurs
Solar activity was up last week, but so were disturbances.
A major solar flare on February 20 blasted the Earth with
enough protons to cause a major HF radio blackout on
February 22. The delay is because heavier protons travel
slowly. The Boulder A index rose to 42 on the 21st and 59
on the 22nd. The worst period was 0600z on February 22
when the K index rose to 8. Each point on the K index
scale represents a huge increase in the disturbance. A
level of 8 is incredibly bad for HF propagation,
especially in the higher latitudes.
There may be more bad news ahead. If the solar regions
that caused poor conditions four weeks earlier rotate into
view again, we could experience more bad conditions around
March 5 through 11, with the worst period around March 6
and 7. Solar flux should drop gradually, reaching a low
around 90 during that period, and rising above 100 again
by the middle of the month.
For the long term, expect solar flux to peak slightly over
the next couple of months, before continuing the slide
toward the probable solar minimum about three years from
now. In a year, average flux should be about 15 points
lower than now, and 30 points lower in two years. The
current best guess is for the next sunspot cycle to peak
probably in the Summer of 2000.
Sunspot Numbers from February 17 through 23 were 67, 77,
54, 33, 17, 68 and 47, with a mean of 51.9. 10.7 cm flux
was 106.4, 106.3, 108, 108, 105, 106.7 and 107, with a
mean of 106.8.
NNNN
/EX
--
================================================
Marc B. Grant Voice Mail: 214-246-1150
marcbg@netcom.com Amateur Radio N5MEI
marcbg@esy.com
================================================
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Date: 1 Mar 94 13:53:12 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!marcbg@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARLS011 Anniversary for AMSAT
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
SB SPACE @ ARL $ARLS011
ARLS011 Anniversary for AMSAT
ZCZC AS55
QST de W1AW
Space Bulletin 011 ARLS011
>From ARRL Headquarters
Newington, CT February 25, 1994
To all radio amateurs
SB SPACE ARL ARLS011
ARLS011 Anniversary for AMSAT
Anniversary for AMSAT
Congratulations to the Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation
(AMSAT), which celebrates its 25th anniversary on March 3.
In early January 1969 a small group of interested amateurs
began meeting in the Washington, D.C. area, with the idea
of forming an East Coast group to carry on the objectives
of Project OSCAR (Orbiting Satellite Carrying Amateur
Radio).
They decided to form a non-profit corporation to
disassociate the group's activities from any of the
companies with whom the members were employed, which
included IBM, the Applied Physics Lab of The Johns Hopkins
University, and the National Aeronautics and Space
Administration (NASA).
Nearly two dozen interested amateurs attended the first
general organizational meeting, held on February 6, 1969.
Just two months later, on March 3, 1969, AMSAT was
incorporated in the District of Columbia. The first
public announcements appeared in April QST and in
Autocall, a Washington, D.C.-area clubs publication.
Among AMSAT's founders (and members of the first board of
directors) were George Jacobs, W3ASK; Perry Klein, W3PK;
Jan King, W3GEY; and Bill Tynan, W3XO.
Today, AMSAT supports both amateur satellites and the
SAREX (Shuttle Amateur Radio Experiment) program.
NNNN
/EX
--
================================================
Marc B. Grant Voice Mail: 214-246-1150
marcbg@netcom.com Amateur Radio N5MEI
marcbg@esy.com
================================================
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Date: 28 Feb 94 12:27:27 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!bigfoot.wustl.edu!cec3!jlw3@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Callsign server info
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Browsing through the callsign server, I came across the information blurb
about how updated it is. cs.buffalo.edu is recent as QRZ!'s CDROM, April
1993. Canadian data is believed to be 1992, no information about club
calls. The callsign server at pc.usl.edu 2000 is recent as of november
93, so a half-a-year more up-to-date. More information is available at
either server; just type "info" at the prompt. BTW, the pc.usl.edu server
was ported by N5KNX from KA2NRC's server source to the Pyramid OSx, so that
explain's a previous post's revelation that the os's are similar.
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:12:31 GMT
From: hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!richw@hplabs.hp.com
Subject: Ramsey DF-1 Kit
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
sherwin1121@delphi.com wrote:
: Anyone had any experience with this direction finding kit, and if so, what?
: Thank you.
: Sherwin.
I purchassed a DF-1 and one other kit (VHF receiver) at the same time,
and found each of them to be the beginning point of a learning experience.
So far, neither of them works to any useful extent. I fixed one design
problem with the VHF receiver, but it still won't stay tuned. I found
one potential problem with the DF-1 design, but haven't taken the time to
persue it further.
Suggestion: Read last month's QST and get yourself a mailing tube and
some aluminum foil. Cheaper and works better.
Rich
===========================================================================
Rich Wilson Internet: richw@lsid.HP.COM
Hewlett Packard Company Packet: N7WWU@N0ARY
Lake Stevens Instrument Division Phone: 206-335-2245
This message is umop apisdn. (Thanks, Don)
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:59:51 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hp-cv!hp-pcd!hpcvsnz!tomb@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Status of Online Repeater Directory Project....
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
What if.... everyone who is contributing to the discussion(??) of
the ARRL and the online repeater database spent the time instead
putting together an independent set of repeater info for their
area? I'd bet that the effort that's been expended on the
discussion would have gone a long way toward putting together
the independent database.
73, K7ITM
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Date: 1 Mar 94 14:27:20 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Used HF help
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
HI,
boy thanks to this group I have been having a lot of success obtaining
information for an upcoming article.
I have decided to ask for some more help:
I would like comments/opinions about the following used gear in respect
to :
known to be good/bad-special known problems
special features/like filtering/processing
options that are recommended
3rd party availability of options/accesories
parts/service availability
** current price range.
Rigs:
Kenwood: TS520/530, 820/830, 430/440
Icom: 735
Yaesu: 101ZD, 102, 107, 757GX, GXII
Ten Tec:Century 22, Argosy (I and II), Delta I, Corsair, Omni?
73 and thanks
Jeff, AC4HF
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Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 02:44:12 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!cherokee!walter!dancer.cc.bellcore.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <rcrw90-280294091343@waters.corp.mot.com.corp.mot.com>, <CSLE87-020394103111@145.39.1.10>, <CM2IAr.H43@ucdavis.edu>
Subject : Re: On-line Repeater Directory
In article <CM2IAr.H43@ucdavis.edu>,
Daniel D. Todd <ez006683@chip.ucdavis.edu> wrote:
>Karl Beckman (CSLE87) wrote:
>: Likewise, but experience tells me that if the phone companies with all
>: their legal resources LOST the US District Curt case protecting their
>: claimed copyright of the contents of a telephone directory, the League
>: stands precious little chance of winning, much less recouping the legal
>: costs from the sale of their version of a repeater directory.
>
>One more time, the league is not saying you can't duplicate the work they
>have done in the directory, the facts are the facts. You cannot copy the
>data directly off of their publication without permission.
FACTS are NOT copyright protected. It is ONLY the overall presentation
of those facts that MAY be protected if a creative effort was involved.
The "sweat of the brow" effort of compiling data was specifically rejected
by the court in the white pages decision.
Further, if the presentation of those facts does NOT represent some
unique (or otherwise obvious) arrangement, then even the overall
presentation is NOT copyright protected. That is what the court said in the
white pages decision.
Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill Sohl (K2UNK) BELLCORE (Bell Communications Research, Inc.)
Morristown, NJ email via UUCP bcr!cc!whs70
201-829-2879 Weekdays email via Internet whs70@cc.bellcore.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:06:20 GMT
From: news.acns.nwu.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.utdallas.edu!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!debmoore@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <1994Feb11.001239.2842@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <CL1p2x.8s2@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <1994Feb14.135821.19246@ee.surrey.ac.uk>
Subject : Re: 40 meter QRP (cw or ssb)
Mike Willis (M.Willis@ee.surrey.ac.uk) wrote:
: I remember sending the word sesquipedallian recently. Quite appropriate
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: if you look it up. difficult not to get lost during the word.
: Mike
I just looked it up. Only one l(.-..). It *is* appropriate though.
73's de Bob
--
=============================================================================
Bob Shilling Berkeley, CA debmoore@netcom.com
KK6QQ rcshilling@lbl.gov
DoD# 1195
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Date: 28 Feb 94 23:00:27 GMT
From: nprdc!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!psinntp!psinntp!arrl.org!ehare@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <CLuJ6q.EwE@ucdavis.edu>, <1994Feb26.183908.15322@pro-haven.cts.com>, <1994Feb28.192256.25854@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Subject : Re: JARGON
Paul Flaherty (paulf@Csli.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller) writes:
: > Regarding ham jargon...here's a good one you might be able to
: >use...it's XYL and it stands for ex young lady....(which I take great
: >offense to as a deragatory remark (I am not an "XYL" because I am only 22
: >years old! :-) ) The term is used to refer to one's wife...(because most
: >hams are of male gender and all...) I think I might start refering to OMs
: >(old men) as XYM and see if they like that...:-)
: My wife (N6YBV) was never terribly happy about this one either (especially
: since she's *younger* than I am). A little digging through some commercial
: CW abbreviation lists led to the the discovery of the abbreviation "YF",
: which is what I use (and advocate, if for no other reason than it's shorter).
I like it a lot better than XYL, too. I usually use YL to describe my
YL, even though she is not a ham (she got really wierd when I had a
name badge made up that said N0CALL!) I have tried using the term OL
to describe any licensed lady, but I finally figured out that there are
some ways YLs *don't* want to be equal to OMs. :-)
73 from ARRL HQ, Ed
--
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Ed Hare, KA1CV ehare@arrl.org
American Radio Relay League
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